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peejay

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Posted 1666947906	Reply with quote #1

I have a silly little 950g extinguisher hidden away in a base locker in the van. Was looking to relocate it in a better location for quick access then thought about getting something just as compact but would last a bit longer, god forbid we have a fire in the van. I came across these, nice and compact and all the blurb looks impressive but very expensive at about £80 for the 50 second version. Anyone know about these? Are they as good as they claim? Also looking for a compact fire blanket as well, does such a thing exist? Fire Safety Stick fire extinguisher __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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BurtSner

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Posted 1666948224	Reply with quote #2

I’ve seen several YouTube videos and they seem very impressive and don’t leave any lingering chemicals or powder. I’ll eagerly await other replies. __________________ miss Molly - Chocolate Labrador Hymer BMC-T 680. “Der Hummer”. I’m now a berk in a Merc. 1974 Norton Commando 850 1960 Triton 650 2024 25th Anniversary Hayabusa 2021 Z900RS Kawasaki Exeter, East Devon Simon
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Willum

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Posted 1666950539 · Edited	Reply with quote #3

There's quite a bit of discussion on some of the yachty forums about them, Pete: eg: https://forums.ybw.com/index.php?threads/anyone-used-fire-safety-stick-as-an-alternative-to-a-fire-extinguisher.533536/ The motorsport fraternity seem very keen on them as well, probably because they're so light and compact, I guess. They are a bit on the pricey side as you say but I guess that may change if they prove to be as good as claimed - and everyone starts making copies. Personally I can't see how they claim it's not toxic and can be safely breathed in. It looks like it's a very fine particulate cloud of Potassium Nitrate - salt-petre to you and me. (use it to cure your bacon, or make gunpowder ....) As for a fire blanket: We carry a standard kitchen variety, wall mounted by the hob: It's about 290mm high, 160mm wide and 40mm thick. Just yank the tapes downward if (please, never) the need arises. Judging by the script on it we bought it in Germany a very, very long time ago but I believe they're made from a type of fibreglass and don't 'go off'. __________________ Will 2003 Frankia i7000BK
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Sir coppo

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Posted 1666951247	Reply with quote #4

Just a fire blanket for us in the van. How many people have had a fire and used an extinguisher?
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mtravel

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Posted 1666954231 · Edited	Reply with quote #5

Quote: Originally Posted by coppo Just a fire blanket for us in the van. How many people have had a fire and used an extinguisher? A few years ago I was in the Stellplatze in Ulm (D), we were having lunch. Smoke rises from a Dutch camper. At first I thought that the owner had switched on the Truma D, it is said that sometimes when switched on it does. But the smoke continues, in short, something was on fire in the refrigerator. A colleague and I rushed out with our fire extinguishers and were able to estinguish the fire. I let you imagine if we hadn't been there, a destroyed camper and most likely a boom. Max __________________
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Queen Gerty

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Posted 1666954740	Reply with quote #6

I´ve got a fire extinguisher in my van, but not much good when the fire was outside. __________________
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Posted 1666956663	Reply with quote #7

Quote: Originally Posted by Gerty I´ve got a fire extinguisher in my van, but not much good when the fire was outside. I still wince when I think of that, Jan. I also marvel at your recovery and probably your spirit that drove it on. __________________ Will 2003 Frankia i7000BK
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Davy

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Posted 1666961969 · Edited	Reply with quote #8

I bought 2 fire stick extinguishers about a year ago. The 50 second versions, although they recommended the 100 second for a 7 metre Motorhome when I contacted them. I have them installed by the door of the van. One at head level and one at foot level. This means laying hands on is easy from inside or out. I bought because they have a 15 year shelf life and so probably cost no more than conventional extinguishers over that time scale. In the past I had to dispose of a Halon gas extinguisher as the gas became banned as a major greenhouse gas. The dry powder with which I replaced it probably ‘caked’ over the years despite me regularly shaking it. It made no sound when upended and I felt no movement of powder so my confidence was not high, particularly as it neared it’s expiry date. Another factor albeit debatable is that a gas extinguisher will not leave the mess that a dry powder will. I did consider a water mist extinguisher as they seem to have a good reputation, but opted for the fire stick. Davy Sorry pics are upside down! Attached Images __________________ Hymer B598PL Co. Down
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peejay

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Posted 1666962480	Reply with quote #9

Thats exactly the sort of feedback I'm after, thanks Davy. __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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peejay

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Posted 1667739478	Reply with quote #10

Another one to throw into the mix, the firetool, half the price but only discharges for 12 seconds and 5 yrs warranty.... JE 50 Fire Extinguisher \| firetool-safety (firetoolsafety.co.uk) __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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Davy

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Posted 1667748581	Reply with quote #11

Interesting, I read about firestick on some of the forums and was not aware of the firetool safety at the time. It would be interesting to see some sort of comparison test between the two. I have looked at the firetool site and revisited the firestick website. The firestick certainly inspires more confidence as it is well detailed and instructive, whereas the firetool is a bit basic. I must say I would also be swayed by discharge time. Most of the sellers here in N. Ireland are race and rally leaning motor factors, but when you read the news section there are good stories from motorhomers, rally drivers, F1 seem to use them and there is reference to space programme usage. My local dealer https://raceandrally.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=fire+safety+stick&utm_source=website&utm_medium=Race+%26+Rally+&utm_campaign=where+to+buy Are currently doing the 50 second version at £60 (normally £70). Davy __________________ Hymer B598PL Co. Down
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Posted 1667766795	Reply with quote #12

2 extinguishers in my van, all facing backwards so in case of a crash i wont be clobbered on my nut. __________________ Self build iveco 59-12 iris bus,Co Antrim
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peejay

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Posted 1668420030 · Edited	Reply with quote #13

Just ordered a 50 second one from these guys.. Fire Safety Stick - 50 Seconds – Vital Equipment £76.78 inc vat & 2.99 p&p Would have used Davy's link but you had to go too deep into the ordering process to find out how much the p&p was so I baled out. Pete __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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peejay

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Posted 1668613795	Reply with quote #14

Firestick arrived this morning, looks good apart from them only supplying one cheap plastic bracket which isn't enough imo if you want to mount it securely. Had a look around and there are twin bracket holders available mainly from the racing/rally sector for around £18 - £20 which is too much money imo again. So, had a look around and kitchen furniture plinth clips look like they will do the job, ordered 2 for £2.19 inc p&p, gotta be worth a punt, will let you know when they arrive.. Fire Safety Stick - 50 Seconds (vitalequipment.co.uk) Buy Race Safety Accessories Fire Safety Stick Mounting Bracket \| Demon Tweeks (demon-tweeks.com) 2 x KITCHEN PLINTH LEG CLIPS & BRACKETS KICK BOARD PLASTIC FITS 32MM DIA LEG 5056154801623 \| eBay __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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Davy

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Posted 1668615878	Reply with quote #15

Belt and braces eh? My two have stayed secure with the single clip since I fitted them, so about 10 to 15,000 miles across Ireland, France and Spain. Davy __________________ Hymer B598PL Co. Down
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peejay

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Posted 1668679061	Reply with quote #16

Perhaps they dont make the brackets as sturdy now but if you mount it vertically(which I am) it slips down the stick which is why hopefully the plinth clips will do the job. __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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peejay

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Posted 1669379042	Reply with quote #17

Quick update... Plinth clips were no good as they are on a sliding mount so used a couple of black plastic coated 32mm terry clips and they work a treat. Steel Tool Clip 10, 12, 16, 19, 25, 28, 32 or 38mm - Black Plastic Coated Terry \| eBay __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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Willum

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Posted 1669382540	Reply with quote #18

Neat. __________________ Will 2003 Frankia i7000BK
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peejay

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Posted 1774524582 · Edited	Reply with quote #19

Important update If anyone purchased one of these and isn't aware, there is an issue with the strikers which has just come to light. The main striker gets wet over time on some older variants and the top domed striker can sink, although firesafetystick have not contacted anyone direct (I bought mine from a separate company) the concern was raised on a.n.other forum. Mine was affected and a quick email to Andrew at firesafetystick resulted in them promptly sending me an updated striker by return post. All details in this (long) post on MHFun... 🔥🔥🔥Check Your Fire Safety Stick! \| MotorhomeFun A photo of my (black old - yellow new replacement) before and after strikers.... __________________ Pete *ENC Fifer Touring M*
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BurtSner

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Posted 1774532813	Reply with quote #20

Thanks Pete, I’ll try to remember to check both of mine. 👍 __________________ miss Molly - Chocolate Labrador Hymer BMC-T 680. “Der Hummer”. I’m now a berk in a Merc. 1974 Norton Commando 850 1960 Triton 650 2024 25th Anniversary Hayabusa 2021 Z900RS Kawasaki Exeter, East Devon Simon
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geek

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Posted 1783016265	Reply with quote #21

The fire safety stick seems expensive, but if it works in a fire, it will be worth it. I bought one, but, of course, have never used it. The usual extinguisher in a car or motorhome is dry powder, and they're rubbish for putting vehicles. The vibration of driving settles the powder into a solid lump in just a few months - and then it won't work, but you won't know till it's too late.
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geek

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Posted 1783016379	Reply with quote #22

"In the past I had to dispose of a Halon gas extinguisher as the gas became banned as a major greenhouse gas." How did you dispose of it?
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BurtSner

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Posted 1783064985	Reply with quote #23

Quote: Originally Posted by geek "In the past I had to dispose of a Halon gas extinguisher as the gas became banned as a major greenhouse gas." How did you dispose of it? set fire to it? 😂 which reminds me of when I was at Brunel uni doing my H&S diploma, we were taken out of the classroom onto some waste ground for a fire safety element. The fire was lit on a pile of waste, and as it was such a cold day we all huddled around it to keep warm 🤣🤣 to hell with putting it out! __________________ miss Molly - Chocolate Labrador Hymer BMC-T 680. “Der Hummer”. I’m now a berk in a Merc. 1974 Norton Commando 850 1960 Triton 650 2024 25th Anniversary Hayabusa 2021 Z900RS Kawasaki Exeter, East Devon Simon
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