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Highlandbear

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Tyres are going to have to be changed anyway so going for winter tyres as will be in Germany/ Austria etc over winter months not going for top end high mileage tyres as just do not do the miles or speed !! Without re in venting the wheel ( excuse the pun ) any one happy with their tyres and recommend them ?
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Sorry, I’ve no idea what variety of tyre you’re going to need during winter over there. Are you intending to be somewhere in the snow?
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Toyo H09 are great winter tyres, not too expensive either, great tread pattern, snowflake symbol so good for Germany/Austria in winter
We have 6 of them on.
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Hi Highlandbear, 

I fitted some Kumho Mud/Snow tyres to the front of my chipped Golf TDi. Not only did they perform excellently all through that winter but they also worked perfectly in Italy all through the following summer, lasted as long as a conventional tyre with the usual UK compound, only appeared to reduce the mpg by 0.2/miles per gallon...and made me wonder what trickery the Great British Motoring Public are being held hostage to with 'normal' tyres.

When I worked as a delivery driver for Avon Tyres (everyone yawns at this point) we got our tyres renewed for free and without quibble or question, regardless of what we had done to them. No questions asked. The technical department at Avon were doubtless testing out different compounds; each new tyre was meticulously signed for and each worn or punctured tyre was returned to Avon, the next morning. They knew our names, routes and payloads. They needed to see the results.

We three guys were contractors doing the daily 7.5 tonne delivery route to tyre outlets across the south east of England. 140 miles per day, no speed limiter fitted.  On a Ford Cargo 0713, we could burn through some front tyres inside three weeks....or three months. It depended on the rubber compounds they fitted. It hugely affected how the truck handled in the wet. It made me look more closely at rubber compounds. 

One of my favourite tricks when the tarmac was very wet used to be to reverse the (empty) truck flat out and backwards across the yard and then spin the steering wheel, stamp on the brakes and do a glorious reverse-turn into the opposite direction while grabbing second gear and making off in the cloud of spray. you needed a heck of a lot of room to do it but we had that kind of space.

On being issued a pair of new front tyres as usual, I decided to see how well they performed this 'trick' a few days later when the yard was empty in the evening.

I got thrown upwards and backwards and cut my right ear on impact with the cab roof behind the driver's seat. The truck wobbled to a halt and stalled as my feet left the pedals and my hands left the steering wheel. I had barely rotated more than 30 degrees. I literally fell out of the cab and head-butted the ground. I hurt.

That is when I also became interested in that little 'snowflake' sign, imprinted in the tyre wall....

In the stillness and quiet that always follows an accident, I heard laughter. I saw our on-site mechanic leaning against the door frame of the office. He shouted one word at me and I had to agree he was probably right. 

Avon for me.
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All year tyres are what we will have when ours need changing, the police, in our area at least, have these tyres on their cars and we have them on our Forester.
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Always good to have all year round tyres jan makes for a comfortable and safe ride. I found if ya only have six months tyres driving gets hard once they come orf 😂👍Hope ya doing ok and don’t mind my pitiful attempt at humour 😘
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Always good to have all year round tyres jan makes for a comfortable and safe ride. I found if ya only have six months tyres driving gets hard once they come orf 😂👍Hope ya doing ok and don’t mind my pitiful attempt at humour 😘


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I've got Agilis M + S tyres on mine but don't think they are legal in Austria and Germany any more for winter so I will be replacing these with all season or winters when they have worn out.

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Had a set of Hankook HW06 winters on for last 3 years, had no problems in snow (and we have encountered a lot ) with them and legal in all countries which have a winter tyre law. would recommend them.
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Just an update should anyone be interested [biggrin][biggrin] I decided on Royal snow tyres , got them through Asda tyres !! very good price with local tyre fitter company to fit them , all included in the price, to be honest I was not sure as these are Chinese made tyres but due diligence this is a really big company that turn out thousands of tyres , anyway , fears have been allayed , well impressed with them for a start so much quite than my old tyres , mpg is good, handling fine , ok was only on snow once so not a real test, but have just done 3000 mls with them , long term how much I will get out of them , don't know but they still look brand new, probably do another 3k or so on the summer trip so will see ........


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Thanks for the heads up, it’s always good to know what’s available. 


btw, when I was in Milan a couple of months ago the local motorhome emporium had large stocks of Hankook snow tyres in readiness for the winter. 


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Thanks for the heads up, it’s always good to know what’s available. 


btw, when I was in Milan a couple of months ago the local motorhome emporium had large stocks of Hankook snow tyres in readiness for the winter. 


Max will be able to fill us in on this, but I know the motorways in Northern Italy display signs in the Autumn to warn people to use winter tyres. We have seen them on the autostrada in October. Are winter tyres compulsory During the winter months Max? 

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I just put a pair of Lassa Wintus 2 on the front. Made in Turkey under licence from Bridgestone. Needed very little lead to balance them and in the dry all seems good, dealt with the freezing roads when we left Bulgaria with no problems but as yet not had snow.

I paid 304bgn for the pair about 72euro each. Am pleased with them and they carry the snowflake symbol and mountain symbol so good for all European countries that require winter tyres by law.
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Yes Lin. When I was there I saw 2 different signs in different parts of Italy. One showed winter tyres from 14th October the other said 21st October ( I think)   That was on our way out and the western slopes were the ones showing 14th -we were going back on the 17th and so technically illegal with my Dunlop Kojaks on the front. 

the corresponding slopes in France had similar signs. 


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Surely holiday vehicles are not included.
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Surely don’t be silly, why would they be excluded? A requirement to have winter tyres would apply to all vehicles. 
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 Are winter tyres compulsory During the winter months Max? 


In Italy winter equipment are not required by law (at least not nationwide).
Decision had been left to road ownership/management (toll, regional, province, community).
For instance most part of motorways are run by private companies.
Up to them to make it compulsory or not.
Where applicable (in the north almost everywhere) we talk of "winter equipment" and not about tyres.

Winter equipament means:
- Tyres at least M+S (three-peak-mountain with snowflake ('3PMSF') symbol right now is not yet mandatory).
OR
- On board snowchains to be mounted in case of needs.

Instead pay attention in Austria where snowchains MUST NOT TOUCH the track.
It means that you can use them in case of heavy snow only.

Or in Switzerland where winter tyres are not compulsory BUT...
...in the event of an accident, not having them can become your fault.

To my knowledge Germany approved a law concerning mandatory '3PMSF winter tyres' but il will be applicable sometime in the future, perhaps 2024.

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