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Would this be of any use to you EU bound peeps

https://www.sixt.co.uk/toll-roads/europe/

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Excellent to Kev. - Thank you.
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Thx, but never use toll roads, so no use to me. Others may find it useful however.
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I thought it useful too, for planning to avoid them Sean.
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It's possible to use Google Maps, Bing Maps or ViaMichelin to plan toll free routes across and around mainland Europe and there's official sites which actually calculate toll prices for users, so don't see the need for that site, but appreciate you posting the link as some may find it useful. BTW, Microsoft Autoroute - now out of date, I know - also enables one to calculate toll free routes, as does Garmin Basecamp (and their satnavs), and presumably TomTom is similar. Might help someone to know this. but maybe not.
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Yes probably Sean, unfortunately I can only look at it from the point of view that I have never been, so knowing where they are in a database would help me decide on a route, plans are to go next year, I hope it isn't a big problem as I assume there will be advance warning, but until I get to grips with the signage etc, Like Asda says, every little helps.

My Autoroute is the 07 version so perhaps not of much use, not looked but I wonder if CoPilot does the same on the fly, need to look in settings.

You like a few on forums (god bless ya) like to seek out info, not my thing I confess, I find it all boring, Liz does all that, I just drive.

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We avoid tolls as much as possible, (always in France), but we do use them in Italy. - We value the suspension on our van! The ‘normal’ roads there are dreadful, although we have to drive them at times if we are sightseeing. We always use toll roads to get down to Ancona, or Bari, for the ferry to Greece.

Thanks again Kev.

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I try to avoid the french toll roads, with the exception of the link from Calais to St Omer/Arques, it's only a small fee but worthwhile from the tunnel to the aire for convenience.

I have the "avoid toll roads" ticked on the Garmin satnag for when I want it to plan my route.

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CoPilot does indeed have an 'avoid toll roads' option so you will be good to go.
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Cheers Colin, I tend not to mess about with settings on apps or programs, so hadn't looked into it.
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I too set the Garmin to avoid toll roads when we left home on the 28th June,we got to Brittany on the 30th, but of course Sunday the 1st July the 80kph limit came in for roads other than dual carriageway, so getting from our friends in Brittany across to Germany became a nightmare because my old Fiat needs to be running at no less than 80kph before using 5th gear so after about 150 ks of 4th gear I threw the towel in and went onto the autoroutes, the increased mpg helped to offset some of the toll costs, but more importantly the van was quieter and more pleasant to drive.
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That's a good saving if you need to get somewhere, how far did you go on it?
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I've done both in France for over 40 years- peage and non-peage - but never once saved money by using peage (paying), and often not much time either.  But, hey, I'm not telling anyone else what to do. Please yersell!

I'm on holiday, not a race to somewhere or other, but then I prefer tootling around 'La France Profounde' (translates as 'Deepest France').

What you choose to do is your affair; no need to lecture others.

Whatever you choose, enjoy.

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I normally avoid tolls but have no problem using them when travelling any distance last year one toll bill was 60€ but had easy driving.Saved 3 hrs according to sat navs calculations and thats several gallons of fuel saved  


AFAIK Garmin satnavs use different mph/kph for autoroutes from D-routes or RN-routes, so the alleged time-saving is not a relevant metric unless one has entered the appropriate condition into the satnav (or BaseCamp route finding app to begin with.

In short, one cannot believe the satnav per se. In Garmin terms, and presumable the TomTom equivalent, only their dedicated PC route planning equivalent works the time/cost out reasonably assuming you enter the correct vehicle details in first.)

Frankly, having calculated many routes over may years with Garmin BaseCamp and checked the mileages/cost with the actual mileages/cost, it has been accurate, but I can't speak for TomTom.

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Have a good play with CoPilot. You can avoid tolls totally, or partially or use them. The avoid will inevitably take you on some quite long detours. You can re-draw the route using the edit button. Pull the route line across to plot a new route. And/or add way points.
It is our weapon of choice.

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What do you do regarding speed cams in France on the CP
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Wow!! that's almost a holiday in itself Witz, 454miles ish I assume as it was a toll road you did it in one hit, what was the total mileage for the day then, you must have been well pooped
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I like to do silly mileages like that too, but it's frowned upon here [pouting-face-smiley-emoticon]
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I am not correcting anybody's French but there is also an alternative way to "translate" La France Profonde. Rural area residents use it sometimes as meaning "Real France" when compared urban/metropolitan areas.

Hope that is interesting.

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Yes, it can be taken to mean that, nevertheless whether used as an adjective or adverb the word 'profond' actually means 'deep', so La France Profonde literally means Deepest France, but it is easy to see why some people consider that deepest France is in fact 'real' France.

However, many French urbanites also interpret the term La France Profonde as meaning 'in the middle of nowhere', but that still doesn't change the literal and dictionary meaning of the word 'profond' nor that of the term La France Profonde.

'Out in the sticks' is an English euphemism for the same thing, as is 'in deep country'.

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Stay away from the bay of Biscay then.
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