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Shows just how much pollution there is in the air. 
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Did anyone else watch Johnson doing the Number 10 Briefing on Thursday afternoon? He was asked by a journalist if, once we are allowed to meet people in their gardens from Monday onwards, could the journalist go and camp in the garden of family/friends overnight? By doing that he would not need to sleep in the house and could also socially distance. Johnson told him he could not, as he would have to go indoors to use the loo. A few minutes later Johnson and his scientific advisors told everyone that if the go and visit people for an afternoon BBQ in their gardens, they could go in the house to use the toilet but they must clean it thoroughly after them!!! - I was surprised nobody questioned them about the contradictory advice! 


I wonder where that leaves us all re going to visit someone in our van? The Government advice says we cannot stay away from home overnight, but if we are able to social distance and use our own loos in our vans, why can’t we go and visit friends and family, park up in their drives and stay the night? We could sit in their gardens whilst social distancing, but never go in their houses. - That is even better than sitting in their garden for an hour in the afternoon and going indoors to use their loo!!! None of this has been thought through! Where does the Government think people are goi g to go to the loo if they can drive hours from home but there are no public loos open?

I have said all along that it is safer to sit in someone’s garden than in a communal space like a park. The scientists now claim they think that there is no more risk sitting in a garden than in a park, so from Monday it is allowed!!! I wonder how many Motorhomers share my thoughts about parking up with friends and family, sitting in their garden whilst social distancing, but using ones own facilities? Maybe we could all be like Dominic Cummings and use our own judgement?

One final thing. - Public loos are not open in many places, yet people are allowed to drive as far as they want in England to visit places for the day. As a result, some disgusting practises are taking place. (Friends in Weston Super Mare witnessed two women crouching down in their communally drive last weekend to go to the loo!). Where loos are open, they won’t be cleaned after every use! Surely, us motorhomers with our own facilities are less of a health hazard, let alone ‘Corvid spreaders’ to the general public than most!!! We can self isolate and have high hygiene standards.......yet we cannot use our vans to go and stay with family/friends/ wildcamp overnight. 


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It might be worth a quick email to your local MP folks just asking the question over whether us with self contained facilities can stay away from home.

I would but my local MP has just had the whip withdrawn on suspicion of assault! Shame, nice chap too.

Graham

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I have already written to my MP about the Cummings fiasco Graham. - He will be fed up with hearing from me!

We have friends in Barnard Castle and they are incensed over DC’s trip there. I am also furious. - Who drives for an hour with suspect eyesight with their wife and child in a car? - Pack of lies......and honesty has always been very important to me. I felt it warranted a letter to Ian Liddell- Grainger or MP......but he is another idiot, so I am not expecting a response! If he isn’t interested in a political situation like Cummings, he certainly won’t be interested in us motorhomers. (We are ‘beneath him’ on Both the social and political scale!).


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I have already written to my MP about the Cummings fiasco Graham. - He will be fed up with hearing from me!

We have friends in Barnard Castle and they are incensed over DC’s trip there. I am also furious. - Who drives for an hour with suspect eyesight with their wife and child in a car? - Pack of lies......and honesty has always been very important to me. I felt it warranted a letter to Ian Liddell- Grainger or MP......but he is another idiot, so I am not expecting a response! If he isn’t interested in a political situation like Cummings, he certainly won’t be interested in us motorhomers. (We are ‘beneath him’ on Both the social and political scale!).




Yes it's a farce Lin, look at Stephen Kinnock as well, he drove from Wales to his parents house in London at the height of the lockdown because it was his dad's birthday.
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I remember playing with Stephen Kinnock when we were kids. I'm 3-4 years older than him. His parents and mine were friends, as both mine were active in the local Labour Party at the time which was in Neil's constituency.

Much maligned but Neil was/is a really nice bloke. Haven't seen Stephen since.

Graham

PS I'm not condoning his actions. We have lockdown breaking going on all our our village which has fortunately - thus far - escaped the ravages. We also live in a local health authority which has the second lowest deaths in Wales (really its the lowest as Powys doesn't have a General Hospital).

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Then there is Robert Jenrick who drove An 80 mile round trip to his parents house in Shropshire to deliver medicines....on Mothering Sunday! His mother isn’t even 70 yet, so isn’t in the ’at risk’ category age range.’ Are we led to believe that they didn’t have a neighbour.....or a system within their village.....where someone could pick up the medication for them? (I would not even believe a ‘Billy no Mates’ story there!). 


We are all being taken for fools.....and that infuriates me! It is almost as bad as these people breaking/twisting advice to suit themselves. 😡


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My wife got her letter today from NHS Wales. As she is on the vulnerable list they have extended her isolation until 16th August. She is quite down about it.

She is allowed out now and can meet other people outside as long as they are 2m away....but she can't really see her dad or son. They are in England and we can't travel over 5 miles anyway plus it's a long way to drive to Gloucestershire and not be able to hug them!

Our next big general announcement in Wales is next Friday when I think there might be some further relaxing of the rules in Wales. If there is hopefully we can at least go for a drive in the car and maybe a walk somewhere different.

It's a real worry for me as she has had mental health problems in the last 9 months or so and this may well tip her over again.

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I am disappointed that the separate countries will not accept the advice given out by their elected UK Prime Minister and decide to do their own thing. then they want devolution and yet remain within the confines of the UK. They should do as they’re told, especially the wee krankie. 
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I am really not disappointed that we plough our own furrow as infection rates are very low here due in part to our longer lasting lockdown measures.

I looked at the pictures taken at Durdle Door the other weekend and shuddered.

Fortunately we are grown ups so don't need to "do as we are told" by England as it is a devolved matter.

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I would trust Mark Drakeford and Nicola Sturgeon over Boris Johnson any day. I think the Covid 19 crisis has been handled in both Wales and Scotland far better than it has been managed in England. Drakeford and Sturgeon have been very decisive and honest in their decision making. They might not have always said what people want to hear, but they have shown good leadership. 

I am sure the restrictions have been tough for people like your wife Graham. I hope you both manage to get through these miserable days without too much permanent damage. At least, as you say, you haven’t had to deal with mass gatherings like Durdle Door, and the virus itself has been kept at bay in your lovely rural part of Wales.

 

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Germany to lift coronavirus travel warning, end border checks on June 15. https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-to-lift-coronavirus-travel-warning-end-border-checks-on-june-15/




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I went to the border a couple of days too early, this is translated,  from midnight tonight the restrictions between the countries will be lifted.
I am so very pleased because I am gradually running out of tea [biggrin].
The dat is the American way,   month / day / year.

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I see this morning that two people from the U.K. have just been diagnosed with Corvid 19 in NZ. They had flown out there for a family funeral. As NZ has been Corvid free and out of any form of lockdown for a while, this will undoubtedly be a news story world wide. - It certainly isn’t going to make other countries view UK visitors in a good light.

It is also worrying about how much Corvid 19 is still going undetected in the U.K. We clearly don’t have a good enough track and trace system to cope with demand. I am also not convinced after seeing people going shopping yesterday, that many of the people in England i(Yesterday’s shopping photos on the news!) understand....or want to believe.....that the virus is still very active.

People tend to believe what they want to believe.....rather than the reality! I see Beijing had more cases yesterday, and the numbers are creeping up in places like Iran and Turkey, let alone Central and Southern America and India etc. We are not ‘put of the woods yet’ but if you watched people trying to get in to the NIKE store in London yesterday, or even the Biscester Village Retail Outlet area, you would think Corvid 19 had gone away completely! 


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They must be gutted in NZ. They do a special favour and get CV19 in return. I can't imagine that they will be as quick to do the same again.

Totally agree with the rest of your post. Our lockdown over in Wales is continuing deeper than in England and we are the better for it. The next announcement is this Friday when I think we'll see some relaxation but not as deep as England.

A second wave is a real possibility and a real worry. If/when it happens we won't necessarily have the benefit of 10 weeks of lovely sunshine either...just look at the showers we have had over the last week/10 days (and more forecast). Folks will struggle to stay indoors if the weather is inclement and hence will exacerbate it I think.

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