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Our journey in the Country required three full weeks.
Mandatory in the Country, not just on motorways, is the "rovinieta", an electronic registration of vehicle license actually.
No matter where you get into the Country, you need it, look for sales point.

Our itinerary:

Nădlac                           Border H-RO (B (register your motorhome at office just after the border)
Arad                              Not visited but probably it worth
Oradea                           Nice town
Gilau                              For itinerary purposes only
Cluj-Napoca                    Nice town
Budeşti                           Wooden Church
Ocna -Sugatag                 Wooden Church (found closed)
Sighetu Marmaţiei              Some museums and Memorial of the Victims of Communism and Resistance
Săpânţa                           Merry Cemetery
Bârsana                           Wooden Church and wonderful Monastery
Vişeu de Sus                     Mokanita Steam Train, not sure if it worth (NO the diesel train !!!)
Moldovita                         Monastery
Sucevita                          Monastery
Manastirea Putna               Monastery
Arbore                             Church - Unesco
Gura Humorului                  Monastery
Voronet                           Monastery
Suceava                          Nice town
Patrauti                           Church - Unesco
Dragomirna                       Monastery
Neamt                             Monastery
Agapia                             Monastery
Piatra Neamţ                     Not visited but probably it worth
Bicaz                               Gorges
Lacu Roşu                         Alpin Lake    
Râmnicu Sărat                   Church
Berca                               Vulcanii Noroiosi (Muddy Volcanoes). Next time (if one) I will skip them
Sarata Monteoru                Not necessary if you don't go to volcanoes.
Murighiol                           Danube Delta Wildlife Boat Tours (for instance at Lac Murighiol Campsite).
Neptun-Jupiter                   Black sea (we stay one day, enough, we drove away).
Costanza                           Nice town, good Archeoligic Museum
Mogoşoaia                          Palace
Bucuresti                           Capital, it worth one day, two it may be.
Snagov                             Church, supposed burial place of Vlad the Impaler
Sinaia                               Monastery, Castelul Peles, Palatul Pelisor
Bran                                 Dracula's Castle    
Râşnov                             Not visited, for itinerary purposes only
Cristian                             Fortified Church
Prejmer                             Fortified Church - Unesco
Braşov                              Nice town
Curtea de Argeş                  Bizantine Church and Monastery. Transfagarasan scenic route
Horezu                              Monastery
Francesti                           Manastirea Dintr-Un Lemn (Monastery)
Cozia                                Monastery
Făgăraş                            Citadelle (if you stay at Camping Laguna Albastra, common showers)
Hoghiz                              Not visited, for itinerary purposes only
Sighişoara                         Nice town
Biertan                              Fortified Church
Mediaş                              Nice town, optional
Cisnadioara                        Fortified Church (on top of a hill, steep rise)    
Sibiu                                 Nice town
Sebeş                                Church, optional
Alba Julia                            Nice historic center, Citadelle
Hunedoara                          Matiae Corvin's Castle
Densuş                               Unbelievable small Church
Sarmizegetusa Ulpia Traiana    Roman ruins
Timisoara                            Nice town
Nădlac                                Border RO-H

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hi
it looks as if you had a lovely time

i worked in Romania for 2 weeks about 10 years ago

it was a very poor country but the people were nice

i worked at the Dacia factory installing some welding machines

watch out as there is a 2 price system locals and tourists

Dracula's castle was only small and was really count Vlad the Impaler

lots of great churches and monastery and the scenery in the mountains is lovely

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You’ll need to pay a road toll ‘Rovinieta’ to use the national roads. You can buy the vignette (sticker) at border points and at most petrol stations. The minimum cost is 3 euros for 7 days. Failure to display the sticker may lead to a heavy fine. You can find out more about prices by using the website Roviniete.ro.

from here https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/romania/safety-and-security

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hi
it looks as if you had a lovely time
lots of great churches and monastery and the scenery in the mountains is lovely
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Yes, we had good time in Țara Românească.

This was the conclusion of my travelogue:

It is no coincidence that the Nation remained the last in order of preference in our wanderings (not just by motorhome).
That said, like every time, at the end of a journey I wonder if I would do it again.

Despite its long history and the constant presence of foreign dominations in many of its regions, it does not have great architectural and museum heritage which are the aspects that most interest us.

In any case, some are definitely appreciable, you may have noticed that we have spent whole days visiting even more Monasteries.
Whose decorations are true Bibles for the illiterate people of the time.
Frescoes depicting the patron prince, the fiery river connecting heaven to hell, the genealogical tree of Christ, the lives of the Saints, the taking of Constantinople.
Sometimes similar, these monastic complexes never are completely.
Want because feminine rather than masculine, in the first you can see the great perfection in the care of the gardens, either because in one you can see an unknown ritual that is never equal to that of another.
Because in one of them male tourists in bermuda must wear a long skirt and in others not.
Because one is poor and one the opposite or because the manifestation of religiosity is different in Moldova than elsewhere.

It is pleasant to stop in these strongly Byzantine places and to seize the atmosphere of peace that one breathes there.
So much so that we also visited those of Agapia, Dintr-un lemn and Cozia who were not on the original itinerary.

Bucharest deserves a parenthesis to itself.
On the one hand it hurts you, on the other you leave sure you have seen little or nothing of what it can offer.
Strange city, breathe the time of Ceausescu and his regime but you miss that of the Orient Express and the Belle Epoque.
Not forgetting the beautiful museum of history with exhibits of inestimable value.

With the exception of the beautiful Danube delta, little appreciable nature even if the gorges of Bicaz have their own charm and the Maramures offers glimpses of rustic beauty.
At least in August, forget instead the Black Sea, overcrowded and even expensive.

Returning to the original question: almost certainly not going back but if we had not been our knowledge of European countries would miss something.
Go there, the nation is ready to give you its warm

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You’ll need to pay a road toll ‘Rovinieta’ to use the national roads. You can buy the vignette (sticker) at border points and at most petrol stations. The minimum cost is 3 euros for 7 days. Failure to display the sticker may lead to a heavy fine. You can find out more about prices by using the website Roviniete.ro.

from here https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/romania/safety-and-security


I mentioned the Rovinieta as the first thing in the topic, right at the top.
I don't remember any sticker to put on the windshield.
I only remember a piece of paper (to be kept) certifying the registration of the license plate and the payment of the fee.
In 2016 (under 3.5tons, I didn't check over) it cost the equivalent of about € 7 for thirty days.

Something could have changed in the meantime.

Thanks anyway for the urls.

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Having described a possible itinerary let me talk a little about Romanian roads.

If you surf the internet a little, you will probably find conflicting information.
I carry over my experience dating back to August 2016.
Almost certainly some road will be improved, already then, with the contributions of the European Community many works were in progress.

The Romanian roads are quite ruined but less than one might think.
The standard is quite similar to that of some other EU countries.

With some exception.

I found it very bad:

-Road RN18 from Barsana to Viseu de Sus and from here up to twenty kilometers before Moldovita.
-Road 73C (or 733) from Curtea de Arges to Rimnicu Vilcea (or Ramnicu Valcea if you prefer).

Just drive slowly and quietly and you will have no problems.

The others are reasonably maintained.

Note: Although I talk about it, we have not drive on the Transfagarasan which climbs up to 2,000 meters.
It was raining hard and we gave up.
On the Internet somebody talk about it, some time ago there was also a video of a motorhome that has traveled on.

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I forgot:

1. Going from Braila to Murighiol (Danube Delta), just after Braila you will find a small ferry crossing a branch of the great river.
Few LEI (local currency, singular LEU, symbol RON).
Waiting for ten minutes and as many for crossing.

2. On the good Constance-Bucharest motorway, at Fetesti you will pass on a toll bridge (not included in Rovinieta).
Immediately afterwards you will come to a toll gate.
There are lanes for subscribers and for cash payment to the operator.
Few RON here too.

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I went to Romania by motorbike about 5 bikes ago, aka 5 years ago. Initially we went to the Brno MotoGP and from there onwards to Romania. The weather was poor all of the trip and we lost a couple of bikes through crashes - a lot of it we put down to the poor road quality and even worse driving standards of the locals. Along with Bran Castle we also went to the Transfaragasn highway - very disappointed with both of them, the highway is similar to the likes of the Furka and Susten passes (both are far, far better) but since Ceaucescu went there’s been no upkeep and the road surface was scored with digger teeth scrapings making for an awkward ride in the pouring rain.

As I’ve said above, their driving standards are terrible but worse is their attitude to the cleanliness of their country with mountains of rubbish tipped everywhere

Then there are the packs of wild dogs everywhere - but they are not wild dogs, they are mostly discarded family pets and they stand around together for company and safety with bewildered looks on their faces. Disgraceful and very saddening.

For me Romania is a page of an atlas to tear out and throw away, I won’t go back.

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I went to Romania by motorbike about 5 bikes ago, aka 5 years ago. Initially we went to the Brno MotoGP and from there onwards to Romania. The weather was poor all of the trip and we lost a couple of bikes through crashes - a lot of it we put down to the poor road quality and even worse driving standards of the locals. Along with Bran Castle we also went to the Transfaragasn highway - very disappointed with both of them, the highway is similar to the likes of the Furka and Susten passes (both are far, far better) but since Ceaucescu went there’s been no upkeep and the road surface was scored with digger teeth scrapings making for an awkward ride in the pouring rain.

As I’ve said above, their driving standards are terrible but worse is their attitude to the cleanliness of their country with mountains of rubbish tipped everywhere

Then there are the packs of wild dogs everywhere - but they are not wild dogs, they are mostly discarded family pets and they stand around together for company and safety with bewildered looks on their faces. Disgraceful and very saddening.

For me Romania is a page of an atlas to tear out and throw away, I won’t go back.


As I understood, wild dogs are the consequence of forced urbanization at Ceausescu's time.
The inhabitants of small towns were forced to move to the big cities where they could not afford comfortable apartments and wide enough to house pets and were constrained to abandon them.

What struck me instead were the many abandoned cemeteries, a clear sign of mass emigration.

However, with a minimum of caution, I found myself well and safe in the Country.

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Let's now talk about stopover and campsites.

Romania has not many campsites.
However, where they exist, they are so cheap that it is not worth doing wild camping.
In any case, many guesthouses offer the possibility of staying for low money (in our case, for example, the Izvorul Rece pension near Sinaia).

Legenda:
PK = Parking, no service
CA = Camping
PS = Rest Area, no service, possible overnight
AA = Rest Area with services, possible overnight

Town                         Type    GPS                                  Note
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Curtici                      PK    46.34035, 21.30226        Quiet parking in front of campsite entry (max check in time at 6.00p.m.).
Gilau                        CA    46.76701, 23.35315        Very clean new facilities
Sighetu Marmatiei  CA    47.93371, 23.90367        Very friendly owner, reception open 8-10 and 16-18 (get in and pay when available)
Vişeu de Sus          AA    47.71402, 24.43895        Payment at steam train station reception, showers in containers at 100 meters
Sucevita                  CA    47.78203, 25.73125        Basic campsite but clean, small home restaurant
Dragomirna             CA    47.75689, 26.22692        Basic campsite but clean, small restaurant
Lacu Rosu               PK    46.79269, 25.79297        Hotel parking, cheap, quiet, Wifi at the hotel
Sarata Monteoru    CA    45.14651, 26.64155        Basic facilities. After 4p.m. check int at Hotel Montana at 1km.
Murighiol                CA    45.04106, 29.15641        Very clean new facilities and friendly english speaking owner. Boat tour on Dabube
Jupiter                    CA    43.86948, 28.59724        Crowdy in August.
Bucuresti               CA    44.51764, 26.09222        Quite far from Center. Ask where you can buy bus tickets (not clear).
Sinaia                     PS    45.31088, 25.57136        Izvorul Rece Guesthouse parking. Quiet. Small barbeque restaurant and bar
Bran                       CA    45.52829, 25.37110        None. The Castle is at half an hour walking.
Brasov                   PK    45.64868, 25.61017        Wide parking in front of Police station
Horezu                  CA    45.14054, 23.97963        Very basic  facilities, bucolic situation
Fagaras                CA    45.83066, 24.99375        Quite far from town, wide and modern campisite. Open space showers
Sibiu                     CA    45.70656, 24.10557        Small campisite at Cisnadioara. New and very clean new facilities
Aurel Vlaicu        CA    45.91421, 23.27934        Basic but clean. Full camper service but a bit inconvenient
Timisoara            CA    45.76918, 21.26632        Wifi didn't work
Fonyov (H)          CA    46.73239, 17.53286        Staff not really polite, electricity socket not found
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morning all

i was just reading the above and remembered my time in Romania

the were lots of horse-drawn carts made from lorry axles with a tree trunk as the main chassis  

there were many many puncture places at the side of the road called from memory auto ziere or similar and were needed as the roads were quite bad

there were also lots of nodding donkeys pumping oil out of the ground

most of the people were lovely but very poor

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