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BurtSner

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I wanted to find a permanent live to connect to inside the fuse box of my X250 Ducato.

I checked every fuse hoping to piggyback onto it, all umpteen of them, but they are all ignition controlled.

I was about to give up and pull a wire from the battery into the dash area when I found an unused relay space in the fuse box. Just the one connector sticking out, so I reckon the others would only be there when fitted with an optional extra. As luck would have it, its live.

I've now fed a fused connection to a switch fitted into the lower dash, and then fed it up into the upper cubby box area. That now houses a 2.1a socket to power my iPad in its new dash pod. Now I can power it with the ignition off as required.

The lower dash trim is very easy to pop off, after removing 2 screws, allowing access to aid in feeding the wire and fixing the switch.

Quick and easy

Edit, forgot the pictures.

Extra cable is the yellow crimp. Then switch location lower left dash, finally my iPad cable peeks out behind the cubby along with the aux. cable to the radio, all the excess is hidden away in the dash.

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hi simon

its a pity that 1 of the 2 cigarette sockets  in the dash is not permanently live

i put a extra socket in the upper glove box to supply the dash camera fed from 1 of the above sockets

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The back of the radio is a good place too as it has one for the memory.
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kev
i forgot about that one
i remember putting a link on the radio so that it would stay on

just need to sort out the aerial as i think it was cut of above the cab by swift as the cable runs up the  side of the windscreen pillar

i noticed this when the dash was out for the aircon

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Van aerials are pants anyway Barry, loads of threads on facts about them, peeps have fitted all kinds of them with little improvement in reception even with digital, I put it down to the lack of a decent sized ground plane which is wissible electrically.
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On the X240, it's dead easy.

The fuse box on the driver's side is ignition controlled.

The box on the passenger side is permanently on. Useful for charging, dashcam etc.

I installed one of these which then allows me to switch on stuff individually.
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Yes that's where I took my live from on t'previous MH.

I also have a feed for the crash cam and other stuff located in the left hand upper storage unit. That's taken direct from the battery, fused and switched for safety.

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hi kev

regarding the aerial

i am under the impression that on the x250 the aerial is supposed to be in the door mirror but when the dash was off i could se a  connection that looked like a aerial wire clipped to the door post and the wire went up the pillar into the roof area not into the door wiring

as my roof is fiberglass im assuming that the wire is just  lying in the over cab area

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My aerial on my X250 is located on the n/s windscreen pillar and is the powered Blaupunkt type. However as I installed a DAB head unit I use a DAB aerial which is stuck to the upper n/s of the screen. It works OK , as well as DAB can work in this part of the country.
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hi kev

regarding the aerial

i am under the impression that on the x250 the aerial is supposed to be in the door mirror but when the dash was off i could se a  connection that looked like a aerial wire clipped to the door post and the wire went up the pillar into the roof area not into the door wiring

as my roof is fiberglass im assuming that the wire is just  lying in the over cab area

barry


You have the better of me Barry, My only X250  was the self build all metal body, and it had a proper aerial and as it was all metal it just worked as it should, but not a single one of my 2.8 Jtds has had a decent reception full time, it would come and go despite the quality of the radio RDS type or not

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hi

 i tried to follow the cable into the roof area  but no luck all a bit to tight

the radio does not pick up anything except engine noise when the engine is running but reasonable when turned off

im wandering if this is what other people  experience 

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I remember one person gluing a load of foil on their van roof to get a larger ground plane I think they did have some success, can't remember where I read it though.
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All easy with a self build,i have sockets on dash ,at kitchen & above table for tv etc.
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If you notice most Fiat vans have a aerial in the front centre of their roof. So with any over cab vans this as to be removed possibly better to fit a new one direct to radio positioned on door pillar or on bonnet


That is to get the ground plane effect, as soon as they put the overcab lump on the stick a rubber duck on the wing which has terrible electrical connectivity with the rest of the chassis/body.

Not sure I'd want a twig in my bonnet.

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Can you take a feed from your Status TV aerial direct to the radio?
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Yes if it multiplies up from the middle of radio frq to the middle of tv frq,ie 100mhz mlt by seven etc should be in tv frq.
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A couple of years ago I ran an aerial lead from the Status unit in the wardrobe, under the floor and up behind the dash to the radio. What a kerfuffle that was! Rigged a power supply to the Status that would work with the engine running.

Radio performance was still rubbish.

I've given up.

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