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 Would you pay £2000+ road tax for a new motorhome
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Lots of rumour and speculation floating around at the moment on this although nothing so far from 'official' sources.

If you were thinking of buying soon - Would you be prepared to fork out extra tax for a new <=3500kg motorhome as of 1 Sep?

https://www.spinney.co.uk/about/news/tax-increase

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It's just one of dot govs money making schemes and people who can afford to buy a new moHo will just have to fork out, it will have the advantage of lifting (or at least keeping them up) used prices too.
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I am seriously considering downsizing and buying a new PVC to see us both out but no way am I paying those prices if its true.

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No fear of me ever buying a new one so I’m not bothered 😁
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We need to stage a coup.
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We had something from our dealership about it as well Pete. We will stick with our van for a few more years yet......unless something major goes wrong with it. We had thought about downsizing to 3.5t, but to be honest we like our van too much to want to compromise on space etc.

Everything is a compromise with a van. The questions we ask ourselves are:

Would a smaller van allow us to get to more places? - Yes.
Would a van with a different layout be more convenient? - Maybe.....re the bed layout.
Would a shorter van be cheaper on ferries etc. - Yes.
Would a smaller van give us so much space to relax inside....especially in bad weather? - No.
Would a smaller van give us all the facilities of our present van? (Great bathroom and loo), - No.
Can we park our bigger van at home without any problem. - Yes.
Do we really want to change our van just to be able to get to a few more locations? - No.

Even without contemplating any cost, we have decided that we can live with our transverse bed, as I never get out of it in the night anyway! (I sleep next to the wall). It would be good at times to get down a smaller road, or park up somewhere that has smaller parking spaces, but that doesn’t happen every day. On the other hand, we enjoy all the benefits of more space and great facilities daily........so we shall stick with what we have got for now.

Much depends on how one uses ones van. If like us you live in it for a few months at a time every year, then the extra space is useful. If you only use it for shorter trips, then maybe it is better to have one that you can get to more places? For short trips maybe living space isn’t so important? - ‘Horses for courses’ and all that!!!




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Even without contemplating any cost, we have decided that we can live with our transverse bed, as I never get out of it in the night anyway! (I sleep next to the wall). 





Mrs S is in a similar situation [wink] so we're also happy with our traverse bed but she does now complain how difficult it is to make the bed! (Cue for suggestions that I do it instead!) 

We've/she's thought about changing to a twin bed layout (hmm [confused] [wink] but this means either losing the twin settee front lounge or a longer van, which will be a bit more difficult to reverse into my drive.

A factor to consider is that shorter vans have better turning circles; I assume that the steering lock stops are set according to how much overhang there is behind the back axle?  

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I think the manufactures should bring out a van of 3501KGs, sorted, well not really as we still have the antiquated licensing system.
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Mrs S is in a similar situation [wink] so we're also happy with our traverse bed but she does now complain how difficult it is to make the bed! (Cue for suggestions that I do it instead!) 

We've/she's thought about changing to a twin bed layout (hmm [confused] [wink] but this means either losing the twin settee front lounge or a longer van, which will be a bit more difficult to reverse into my drive.

A factor to consider is that shorter vans have better turning circles; I assume that the steering lock stops are set according to how much overhang there is behind the back axle?  


My biggest complaint is the making of the bed Ernie! - Mrs S and I should get together! 😁.
I had to laugh at OH last week. The bed needed to be made up, but our son was home at the time. OH ‘suggested’ to him that maybe he would like to help his mum by making up the bed in the van?!!!!! In my opinion he got our son to do it before he was asked! 🙄

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Oh the joys of just throwing a sleeping bag on top of the mattress 1 pillow and away to sleep 💤 ha ha.😁
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I’d rather make the current MH suit me than go looking for an alternative, and even then definitely not new.
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Haven't a clue as to the answer but what happens if you buy a motorhome plated at (say) 3,650kg saving around £2.2k on the first registration tax and then downplate it to 3,500kg?  OK, you'll pay an increased £200 each year but do you have to pay the £2.2k "premium?  Mmmmmmmh?
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I am seriously considering downsizing and buying a new PVC to see us both out but no way am I paying those prices if its true.

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What's on the shortlist Pete if you do go down the PVC route
It will be our last van too.
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Paul, if I remember correctly you've been down the PVC route previously.
Are you finding the current A class unsuitable?

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I think paul is talking about the future john when he is old and doddery like a lot of us on here lol 😂
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Instead of middle-aged and doddery.
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What's on the shortlist Pete if you do go down the PVC route
It will be our last van too.


Paul, sorry for the delay, been away for a few days.

I want almost the impossible, a 5.4m van with 2 x good singles and a proper toilet/shower.

The only shortlisted one atm is an East Neuk Fifer M which ticks most of the boxes....

https://eastneukcampervans.co.uk/new-models/fifer-touring-m/

I would consider a 2nd hand one to avoid this stupid new tax but they are like hens teeth.

So at the moment we are sticking with what weve got  and plan to spend a few bob refurbing it here and there until state pension time in about 3 years, then look at it again.

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Paul, if I remember correctly you've been down the PVC route previously.
Are you finding the current A class unsuitable?



Not at all John, love the A class, best quality motorhome we have ever had. The huge garage for a van of only 6.5 metres, Alde is amazing, remarkable build quality throughout. Twin rear, rear wheel drive.
I'm talking quite a lot of years yet until a change occurs from this one.
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I think paul is talking about the future john when he is old and doddery like a lot of us on here lol 😂



Exactly Alan, 15 years ish yet.
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Paul, sorry for the delay, been away for a few days.

I want almost the impossible, a 5.4m van with 2 x good singles and a proper toilet/shower.

The only shortlisted one atm is an East Neuk Fifer M which ticks most of the boxes....

https://eastneukcampervans.co.uk/new-models/fifer-touring-m/

I would consider a 2nd hand one to avoid this stupid new tax but they are like hens teeth.

So at the moment we are sticking with what weve got  and plan to spend a few bob refurbing it here and there until state pension time in about 3 years, then look at it again.

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East Neuk nice Pete but not winterised compared to your Hymer, both tanks underslung and only the 12 v heating available on hook up or else a load of power used.
That's why I considered getting a small self build done, twin wall fresh and waste with pipes routed from the heating system at the build stage
It's such a difficult decision isn't it.
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Wont be too bothered about winterisation by the time we change Paul, I've done all the serious winter touring were going to do in the Hymer and we'll only be going to warm places in a PVC.

Also it will probably need to be dual purpose as we only plan to have one vehicle, hence the small size.

We're also thinking of getting a boat on the broads and splitting our time between the two pastimes.

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Paul, sorry for the delay, been away for a few days.

I want almost the impossible, a 5.4m van with 2 x good singles and a proper toilet/shower.

The only shortlisted one atm is an East Neuk Fifer M which ticks most of the boxes....

https://eastneukcampervans.co.uk/new-models/fifer-touring-m/

I would consider a 2nd hand one to avoid this stupid new tax but they are like hens teeth.

So at the moment we are sticking with what weve got  and plan to spend a few bob refurbing it here and there until state pension time in about 3 years, then look at it again.

Pete



A nice looking van they Pete, I'd want more solar and more LBs to give me peace of mind for the fridge, or swap it for gas, and not keen on Diesel heating too fussy and who can repair it when it inevitably goes boobs up, the single beds didn't look as long as the lady said, but would do if correct.

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You can get more solar on the roof Kev, its a costly option via them, but I think that might be because they have to upgrade the sargent unit to cope with the extra.

The battery is one big 230ah one in a housing set into the hab floor so I don't think it would be possible to go larger. Ive been using around 200 - 230 ah leisures for some time now, we are very low power users so it would probably be enough for us.

The two singles have upholstered pads that sit on each end, one over the fridge and one over the end cupboard to make them longer. I've tried it on a 2nd hand one at a show and it works well.

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Thanks Pete 😃
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