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Before I get into the finer details I am mindful of Kev's mantra 'cheap no good, good no cheap' and will be asking advice on 'cheap & good' later [wink] 

For the last two significant events in Mrs S's life I have bought her a cheap chinese copy of a decent iPhone (I know they are all made in China but these two are both dodgy brands, and did I mention, cheap [biggrin] [wink]

I am convinced she sowed the seeds of destruction in the first one as she inserted a sim where it shouldn't go (a micro sim in standard slot) and then attempted to prise it out with a screwdriver, anyway it eventually became impossible to charge it up, possibly due to a faulty socket. This one was the old type where it was possible to get into the works for diagnostic & repair purposes.

I then replaced it with another flashly product, 4g & so on, but this one is sealed for life i.e. not possible to take back off to remove battery or play around. It's been fine for some months but has now started to go straight to answerphone and, much more puzzling, incoming callers cannot be heard unless the earphones are plugged in and the call is taken on these.

The obvious diagnosis is that the internal speaker or circuitry has failed but music & tones come through it ok ruling that out. Google suggests that the jack socket is dirty or faulty and this might be so but, as above, I can't get in to inspect it. I've tried contact cleaner & blowing but am reluctant to do anything more drastic in case I b****r it up completely.

I suspect Mrs S has somehow pressed the wrong buttons as I solved the answerphone issue by fiddling with the software but can't work out how to reprogram the incoming calls back to the internal speaker. If anyone knows a workaround I would be most grateful (the software is Android 7.0)

Failing this, another significant birthday is coming up, and she now insists on a known Chinese brand this time, i.e. a Samsung (or is that from Korea?) I've been looking at cheap ones (there is a recurrent theme here [cool] but no way am I paying £100's for a phone!) and narrowed it down to an S4 or J5 and wondered if anyone had an opinion as to which of these is the best, ebay prices being fairly comparable.

Thanks for listening......[smile]         

  

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S4 is a good phone , think Kev has one . My wife has J 5 and likes it . I don't like Apple , good products but have to do everything via Apple store or I tunes.
I've got the old S5 Samsung , when it goes ut will be replaced by another Android phone , see how flush I am at the time.


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I use an S5 at the mo, I also keep S2 as a spare the S4 is crap as is the S6, I have cheapo chines phone which works fine going to eBay it at some point it's xiaomi https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/budget-smartphones/xiaomi-redmi-4a-3676217/&ved=2ahUKEwjtmeTQ1vLdAhWqD8AKHTgfD7wQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw0AZwAOX2VatzsLI8BMLBJ7 I only went back to Samsung as this cane up n a search, but they have an inherent problem with their cameras packing up, I flogged my last one for 80 quid bought this one, then it went tits up too, so I requested a refund, he repaid me and said keep the phone, I did a hard reboot and it's worked fine since so a free phone.

I like this particular model as it takes a 128gb SD card, and I download netflix to it and play them back on the vans tv.

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Thanks for your helpful replies but I don't think I dare buy anything but a Samsung (I had enough '"I told you so's" over the leisure batteries episode[smile])

If I ever need a new phone myself I will consider Kev's recommendation but my Huawei (Y300, I think) had been utterly reliable for several years, apart from a expired charging lead, though now outdated for speed and camera quality.

I've just watched a youtube video comparison of the J5 & S4 and the J5 seems to have a better definition screen so unless there is a really good offer on S4's the die is cast. Once the new phone is in service I will get the tin opener out on the old one and see whats going on[biggrin]  

To end on a MH theme one of the better chinese copies I ever bought was an XCody truck satnav for silly money, about £30/40. I've since modified the dash to accept a double din fitted head unit but still keep it in the van as a 'spare'. 


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Well the special birthday has happened this weekend and the J5 was graciously received however there was much consternation when we found a micro sim wouldn't fit; the updated 2017 version requires a nano sim!

I made the helpful suggestion that she needed to request a new sim from her provider..."but I'll lose all my contacts[bawl]".....so I googled for information on transferring data between cards and found to my amazement that it is possible to purchase a thing that looks like a stapler to convert any sim card to nano size complete with  adapters to build it up again if necessary.

How I managed to get through the last twenty years or so without knowing about this helpful gadget I don't know; probably because my old Huawei, which is still working well, is rooted in the stone age with a monster sim [smile] 

However the J5, like the Chinese one it is replacing, doesn't have an easily replaceable battery and I read somewhere that the manufacturers have done this by request so that users can't avoid being tracked by removing the battery [confused]       

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When I recently purchased my S9 and also found it needed a nano SIM, my provider (Tesco) sent me one FOC, after cancelling my other one.

Samsung's helpline explained how to transfer the info. Painless but, being a forgetful old fool, I've already forgotten how it was done!

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Apparently just taking the battery out doesn't stop em tracking ya that's why
the travellers take the sim out and throw the phone away as well.
Even if ya battery is dead flat big brother can still trace you don't know how though.


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I have always had Samsung phones and never had a problem, using second hand Note 8 at present. I have not come across the problem with cameras that Kev mentions. In fact many of the cheapo Chinese phones use Samsung camera parts.
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As far as I know it is just the S5 Rowley.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=samsung+galaxy+s5+camera+failed&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB815GB816&oq=samsung+galaxy+S5+camera&aqs=chrome.2.0l6.10426j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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