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Highlandbear

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We have decided its not getting enough use so starting to plan a trip for December/January, having recently came across from the dark side of caravans [smile] have never really done much in the way of cold weather stuff ,we have good heating in the motorhome plus a bulk gas tank bolted to the chassis and a back up generator , so no issues that way , but we are partial to a bit of skiing , winter walking etc, this vehicle is not really winterised, so the issues of freezing water may be an issue , I can leave waste tank valve open and drain water into a bucket and empty regularly but the pipes and hot water ??? just leave heating on all the time , certainly for the skiing have seen sites close to resorts with hook ups , I would imagine be not in expensive .
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Our first van was a Bessacarr and that was not quite fully winterised. It had a winter pack, but the tanks were outside. Just a few days in snow it was fine. We also carried a small electric heater so went on EH you we could run that inside the van. I have heard about people wrapping installation around the outside tanks.
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Hi Thanks that was what we did with the caravan but that was just for a week end both our tanks are internal well hot tank is waste tank bolted to chassis on outside
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What van do you have?

This one we have is brilliant for winter, it has a large garage, a full width ski locker, double floor containing all pipes, both fresh and waste tanks, fresh and waste empty valves are even in heated lockers how well designed is that. Alde heating, Twin rear wheel drive too and winter tyres.
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Morning Nothing as excellent as that its a Swift Kontiki, the hot water tank ,pump pipes etc are all inside below seats behind driver seat the only thing that is exposed id the waste tank which is bolted to the chassis just in front of rear axle , the theory being as long as temp inside is kept up all should be well
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In winter alpine conditions, any exposed pipe runs will eventually freeze, even if you leave the waste tank open. The ice gradually builds up on the inside of the pipes, I speak from experience with our little old autosleeper nuevo. I knocked up a second waste pipe and ran it from the kitchen sink directly into a container into a cupboard under the sink. Didn't use the bathroom when it was that cold but ran the shower hose out the window for Al fresco hair washing!
There is also the potential problem if you take on gas abroad as there is usually a high butane content which doesn't gas off at low temps.
We've now got a van with double floor and everything runs inside including the waste tap.

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Knew I had a photo somewhere, taken in Fall, S Germany, temp around -15c, i'm nearly as hard as that yorkshireman with the Concorde what lives up on the moors. [smile]....

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We never had any issues over wintering over the last ten years Nov / March, no freezing of anything, no condensation problems anywhere and we wild camp all the time..  We always went somewhere hot like Greece, Spain, Portugal and the such I recommend it!..[biggrin]..

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In winter alpine conditions, any exposed pipe runs will eventually freeze, even if you leave the waste tank open. The ice gradually builds up on the inside of the pipes, I speak from experience with our little old autosleeper nuevo. I knocked up a second waste pipe and ran it from the kitchen sink directly into a container into a cupboard under the sink. Didn't use the bathroom when it was that cold but ran the shower hose out the window for Al fresco hair washing!
There is also the potential problem if you take on gas abroad as there is usually a high butane content which doesn't gas off at low temps.
We've now got a van with double floor and everything runs inside including the waste tap.

Pete
Thanks thats all god points , gas will not be an issue , fitted a bulk tank bolted to chassis so fill up at garage with lpg (propane basically) so should be fine with that , we rethink the waste side of things 
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