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Thanks for that, I think, the restoration and AI improvement has really added to the sense of ‘being there’ , some very pretty girls featured I see 😉. 
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Do you have to open it on Youtube? I do and the comments are worth a read, most are in English.
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Yes, in order to view it you must click on the part which suggests you click on you tube. 
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Interesting video must have cost a fortune to destroy all the buildings then another one to rebuild it all, same with this country.
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Interesting video must have cost a fortune to destroy all the buildings then another one to rebuild it all, same with this country.


i bet it looked different when you used to go over at night 😂

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Oy sod orf I isn’t that bruddy old 😎
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Very informative video, enjoyed it, if enjoyed is the right word.

We were amazed when we toured Germany and went to Dresden, architecturally it's stunning, beautiful buildings and it was destroyed in the war
They rebuilt it stone by stone I was in awe.
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World War II was a tragedy.
The last among European countries, I hope to be the last really.
As an Italian, my homeland involved and not on the side of reason, I can only apologize to those who have suffered and given their lives to defeat dictatorships.
Our only excuse is to have left the war in September 1943, this caused us massacres and mourners.
But I do not have hatred towards the German people whom I admire for their tenacity and positive spirit.

Dresden.
I was there the first time in 2004 and it was still an open construction site.
The Cathedral of Holy Trinity was already open to visits but inside it was still far from finished.
The jewelry museum had transferred its contents and would only reopen the following year.
I went back in the winter of 2014 and the city was now admirable in all its beauties.
You may not know that many German and Polish towns have been reconstructed as they were also taking into account the paintings of important Venetian painters of the eighteenth century (Canaletto for example) who had painted them.

About Dresden, however, let me say one thing, I apologize for the frankness.
From a military point of view, its bombing was completely useless, the war was drawing to a close.
But Churchill wanted to revenge Coventry and put in place what I consider a cowardly action on that was a defenseless population.

I conclude by saying that my admiration for the German nation is also due to the fact that it has been able to incorporate a whole country.
Of course, with the help of the European Community, but iti is something memorable.
It would be worthwhile to investigate the so-called "ostalgie" (from German Ost (east) and Nostalgie (nostalgia)) that the inhabitants of the former East Germany seem to suffer from.
We say: We were better when we were worse...

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It would be worthwhile to investigate the so-called "ostalgie" (from German Ost (east) and Nostalgie (nostalgia)) that the inhabitants of the former East Germany seem to suffer from.
We say: We were better when we were worse...

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I don´t understand this question Max, I live in the East, if I knew what you meant maybe I could put some light on the subject [idea]

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It is not my impression and I am not the one who coined the neologism, however inserted by Gesellschaft für Deutsche Sprache in the German language.
The Internet is full of references even if perhaps those who live there do not notice it.
If a foreigner comes to what used to be East Germany, passing first through the wealthy regions such as Bavaria or Baden Wurttemberg, once he arrives many differences he notices.
Despite the enormous work done, profound economic differences still exist.

Ostalgie is a phenomenon present in all the nations of the former Soviet bloc.
For example the Bucharest camp keeper told me about it literally saying:
Now we are free but once we were all the same.
Almost.
The governement gave us almost for free houses (poor), school (quite good), healt system.

Now they call it democracy but democrats are only the ones who have the money.
The gap between new wealthy and middle class is widening.
Once the average Romanian went on vacation twice a year, once to the sea and once to the mountains. In state facilities but it could.
Now only those who can afford it.
Of course, there was once an oppressive regime.
Maybe it continues even if hidden.

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When I visited what was the old East Germany a few years ago I was told that there were many “Osterns” who preferred the difficult ways prior to the reunification of East and West. 

I was also told that they would use the words Sind Sie Ostern? if they were dealing with any awkward people. 


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When I visited what was the old East Germany a few years ago I was told that there were many “Osterns” who preferred the difficult ways prior to the reunification of East and West. 

I was also told that they would use the words Sind Sie Ostern? if they were dealing with any awkward people. 



"Are you East German"? why would they ask that.?

I don´t believe many would want to go back being the DDR when nothing was available to improve their houses even though they had the money to do so. Only fresh fruit and vegetables if you lived in a place like this.
The Russians who were in control were disliked immensely. Anything the people produced had a percentage confiscated, all the old houses here have a 6` high fence which prevented their neighbour seeing what they were up to.
Several people in this village were born on the other side of the river in what is now Poland forced to come here and became sodbusters encouraged by Russia, they were given a patch of land to cultivate each of the old houses have land, most rent it to the farmers these days. This of course is in the country, towns and cities were worse off because they could hardly turn in their beds without someone knowing.

Plenty of  cheap building land in this village, but you would need to spend money to clear the ruin first. Screenshot 2020-05-21 at 17.30.28.png  Screenshot 2020-05-21 at 17.31.40.png  Screenshot 2020-05-21 at 17.35.50.png  The land belonging to the ruin goes just passed the tree.  There´s a long story that goes with the now owner who is a (not a word to use on this forum) who  bought it for a song about 4-5 years ago and within a short time made a worse mess.

If you understand German the series Weissensee gives a good insight to what went on. A pity it´s not been translated to English.      There is a prison ruin 50 km from here were political prisoners were held. 




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These posts are getting a bit too deep for my old brain. We need some joy and silliness in these times.
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That was life Sylvia, just be glad it wasn´t your life.
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I am not disputing that but that topic is a deep for a motorhome forum that is supposed to be for fun and information, that's just my opinion others might disagree. My Granddaughter in Law's relatives are still having the same problems living in Russia.


























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On a much happier note I’m still here and as brown as a berry, cleaned the van windows except the windscreen as it was red hot so still covered in pollen as are my two velux windows on the extension only cleaned them a week ago knew it was a waste of time. Runner beans survived the night so hopefully the pests won’t bother with them.🤞thinking of mowing the lawn tomorrow as there are 12daises growing on it got to keep busy lol.
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I have found some of those California Poppies growing in the front garden today. 

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I see your point Silvya all I can say is dont open that type of post in future, I posted them as they are post war rather than others which are during the war.
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A chap called i think felton does a lot of ww2 pictures on utube and the aftermath.
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Some of the videos I have watched about WW2 were quite terrible, certainly too much for any forum, but it happened lest we forget. I have tried to find some others which show the lighter side after it ended but as you can imagine.
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