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I made a foray into the loft today to unearth my VHS player together with numerous tapes. Amazingly it still works although most of the tapes have deteriorated (damp?) and are fuzzy, however most these are of somewhat questionable content and have gone in the bin....

Surprisingly (as I don't remember owning a VHS camcorder?)  I've also got several VHC tapes with movies of the grandchildren and other animals which are of some historical interest as they are about 25 years older now, which obviously I'd like to keep, as well as some which have apparently been transferred onto the VHS tapes (I must have been more cleverer when I was younger [confused] [wink]

I don't know how long my VHS player will last and they are of course obsolete now so I'd now like to transfer them onto a DVD and this is where I'd value some advice......

I've found this adapter/converter on ebay, is it as simple as just connecting VHS player to PC with this or would I still need some sort of software to make it work?  

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/External-USB-Audio-Video-Easycap-Capture-Card-Composite-to-USB2-0-Transfer-Cable/252327583850?hash=item3abfe5606a:g:~rYAAOSwtEVbSMXs&frcectupt=true


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Can’t help with that Ernie but good luck sorting it out.👍
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I keep meaning to send a special VHS tape off to this guy to sort out for me, may possibly be of use to you

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F123655585228


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I have a Panasonic machine tucked away in a wardrobe somewhere that has a VHS and DVD. Some years ago I used it to copy tapes onto discs.

I had to copy the tapes onto the HDD (hard drive) first, and then from the HDD onto the disc.

There was a slight loss of quality caused by the stages of the process.

These days, with everthing being digital, we are lucky that things can be copied loads of times without loss of quality.

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I used one of these some time ago when I had a Windows PC (on a Mac now) and it worked fine. I haven't tried it on the Mac as I haven't needed to.
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Thanks for the encouragement and helpful replies and I will now spend £5.99 with confidence, (as have Windows 7 on PC) download the grandchildren tapes to HDD and then burn to disc.

When I was googling this subject, the mythical machine that Tugboat owns was mentioned as the best way of transferring tapes to disc, and it's amazing how technology has moved on; I vaguely remember some cumbersome thingys before the 'modern' audio cassettes took over. On the subject of obsolete technology does anyone still own a betamax player as I found one beta tape amongst all my VHS ones.....I must have saved it for some reason but sadly the player that I used to have is long gone....

To save looking for the other thread, have a great holiday Alan!      

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Thanks Ernie, Betamax now that’s a blast from the past 👍
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I have a Panasonic machine tucked away in a wardrobe somewhere that has a VHS and DVD. Some years ago I used it to copy tapes onto discs.

I had to copy the tapes onto the HDD (hard drive) first, and then from the HDD onto the disc.

There was a slight loss of quality caused by the stages of the process.

These days, with everthing being digital, we are lucky that things can be copied loads of times without loss of quality.


We have one of those still in use tugs, well it would be in use it we wanted to use it.😊
It's used sometimes to record from the TV as I've copied all the tapes to dvd.

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I have used a similar thing but I have never used it on a VHS player, I use it on the actual camera which had the cassette tape which is then copied on to VHS player.. If it works the other way round from the player itself I haven't a clue.. I do know it works off the camera then load it onto "Cyber link Power director", they do a free version to try it but I have the latest paid for version and use it all the time, it will burn DVD's , even load it straight onto You tube if you want, you can edit and put music background and subtitles, in fact anything you want for a professional result.

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We have one of those still in use tugs, well it would be in use it we wanted to use it.😊
It's used sometimes to record from the TV as I've copied all the tapes to dvd.


Just to show how dopey I am, the machine I mentioned is in fact under my lounge telly, not in the wardrobe. Duh.

I seem to be collecting recorders both upstairs and in my lounge. Upstairs x 2, downstairs x 3. Only one is used to record in each location as the others became unreliable, but they still have recordings on them that I don't want to lose.

I've often wondered if they could be transferred and then the old units junked.

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I have used one of these VHS to DVD machines. They only work for tapes you have recorded yourself. Commercial VHS tapes will have copy prevention built in and cannot be transferred. The picture quality on the DVD will be poor but the sound will be OK.
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I'm not certain, but if you tape over the gap at the back of a commercial tape you may override the preventer.
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That's something different Milly. You could break off a tab to avoid accidentally recording over something you wanted to keep. you could then override that by taping over the hole.

Copywrite protection was something different. It was built into the recording itself and couldn't be bypassed. 

Some of the commercial tapes I copied onto disc were from an era before copywrite protection became standard.

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I knew a bit of tape came into it somewhere see, I said I wasn't certain.
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I have a few boxes of VHS cassette tapes from way back which would normally go onto a tape for the VHS machine which was binned years ago, so to get the film from the actual camera which I still have for some reason and the original cassette and to be able to download into a digital format was a God send, I made DVD's multiple copies to distribute among our family of long lost film of the grand kids and stuff, all which will now survive as the original film is/has detreated.

A couple of my old Cassette tapes I managed to rescue, you can see on the first part it is very detreated from when we did our first boat up behind Leeds City Station beginning of the seventys, and the other bit is diving the Farnes sometime in the seventy's both from some tapes found in the attic and long forgot about. Both silent film as was normal at that time.



Another vid using Cyber link power director , the sound track is not of my making you tube put it on as my original soundtrack was found to be copyright so they knocked it back..
This part of a much longer vid from the seventy's but shows what you can do with proper software.



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I have made quite a lot of those ray, they are on my youtube.

Here's on from several a few years ago when I could run, you can hear my trainer giving me instructions.

Kristel had never done anything like that before, she watched how the other dogs did it and just knew.


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From memory Betamax was better quality than VHS , but VHS became the "mass produced " machine. Even better was the Philips disc version , a disc the size of an lp record , couldn't take them round to a pal's easily . Remember Lp's, still got some in the loft I think. When my now 29 year old son was 13 , he came bouncing downstairs and said "wait until you here this , it's great". He proceeded to play the Who "won't get fooled again " thinking it was a new mp3. I showed hm the original "Who's Next " album in vinyl and he just about wore it out.
Music and clothes , keep them long enough and they come back into fashion[ear-to-ear-smiling-smiley-emoticon]. Unfortunately some of us have suits which will come back into fashion , but will NEVER fit us again[thumbs-down-hand-smiley-emoticon].
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Remember Lp's, still got some in the loft I think.
Music and clothes , keep them long enough and they come back into fashion.


I still stick the LP's on the turntable (Linn Sondek LP12).[thumb]
Sales in vinyl on the way back up (along with cassettes![eek])
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I always like to tidy up any threads I started so, in the interests of completeness and in case anyone googles this thread while researching the same query, here endeth the lesson:

1. Did it work?......Yes, eventually!

2. Was it plug n' play?......No!

3. Was it easy to set up?.....Yes and No! 

The 'dongle' linked to in my op came with software on a mini CD and a quick start guide (plus lots more information available on line) However Windows 7 already had the necessary drivers as allegedly so does Windows 8 (Windows 10 is not supported but drivers are apparently required for Vista & XP)

I already had a Scart to RCA lead so connecting PC to VHS player was easy. I installed a 'virtual' monitor and video player from the CD and put a tape in my VHS player.

The image from the tape immediately appeared on the virtual monitor, great, cracked it, hurrah, and then I realised that there was no audio [frown] 

To cut a very long (several hours) story short the audio output from the VHS player once it's been through the 'dongle' is called USB 2.0 MIC but the default audio input on the virtual video player was set to something else [rolleyes] it's necessary to go into the settings screen on the virtual video player and alter the default option to USB 2.0 MIC from whatever it was! 

Once video and audio were both coming through to the virtual monitor on the PC it was 'simply' a matter of recording clips from my VHS tapes onto the virtual video player on the PC. Obviously these recordings were being stored somewhere on the HDD and in fact there was a little 'virtual' box created next to my VLC player with the clips inside (I already had the VLC player installed)

These clips could then be played on the VLC player or be burnt onto a CD or DVD to be played elsewhere.

      

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