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I need to get something to fit the ceiling of the MH to illuminate the very dark interior between the fridge, hob and sink

Something like this https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132590398049

Any suggestions what to look for, I've got the headroom, it not the inclination to want to go cutting holes and chasing wires around.

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Just a thought, how often would you use the light , maybe a decent battery operated one? Bit of a nuisance when battery packs up , but no wiring to route fom power source.
Hope you enjoyed Scottish sojourn.
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Perhaps an easier installation would be some LED spotlights mounted on / above / under the cabinets, then the wiring source and route will be more simple? or maybe even some LED strips mounted to the side?
 

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Perhaps an easier installation would be some LED spotlights mounted on / above / under the cabinets, then the wiring source and route will be more simple? or maybe even some LED strips mounted to the side?
 


There are 3 downlighters immediately over the hob area that are quite good, but there's no illumination towards the fridge, and more importantly, the over fridge cooker/grill thing.

LED strips sounds possible......

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Just a thought, how often would you use the light , maybe a decent battery operated one? Bit of a nuisance when battery packs up , but no wiring to route fom power source.
Hope you enjoyed Scottish sojourn.
John


When we next use the MH for any length of time it won't need a light, but now she must have one

Battery powered is a possible.

My favourite curry house was closed for a fortnight, so inconvenient of them to go away when we were up there. We had a good seafood mix from the chip shop next door, as well as a battered haggis for Sue

Bute was nice for a 2 night stopover, no more it's not big enough. Then we went down the west coast all away round, lots of lovely scenery, not that we saw a great deal with the low clouds. Good to be away though. Despite a few problems with the MH. Which reminds me, I need to do a new thread on those too.

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One of these ebay no 253204347781 should be easy to find a power cable or mount where old lamp was. lamp van.png 

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I'd have thought a first step would be to take down an existing (nearest) overhead light and try feeding a stiff wire along to where you want a light. Just to see if it is possible to spur off the lighting circuit.
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Tuggers idea will work well in principal, needs to be a very stiff wire though or it'll veer off.

A look at the roof layout might help Simon, a  picture perhaps.


Something like this would be good, it's 20w but if only for occasional use it should be okay

https://www.lighthubdirect.com/products/lighthub-20w-led-4000k-ip65-flush-wall-ceiling-mounted-round-bulkhead-light-fitting-white?cmp_id=1570999339&adg_id=59714412376&kwd=&device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjwyOreBRAYEiwAR2mSktMXGiA79druCBc1VpYuD4yTiaG3oIC4LimGLUvDjQkXJRBqshPGWhoC5XsQAvD_BwE

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Kev, that one is 240 volt!

The possible problem trying to feed from the side to a central location on the ceiling is that most vans will have stiffening support beams (often wood battens) holding the roof up, often in a criss cross configuration; so unless you manage to get the pull wire between the skin and beams you won't get far.

The other option would be to use trunking of some sort but would definitely end up looking like an afterthought.

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So it is John, I followed a 12v link to it, should have read it it before posting, bad bear, as you were Simon.


Some here perhaps

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/161130527358?chn=ps

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Dream-Lighting-12v-LED-Oval-Ceiling-Light-decor-Light-downlight-for-RV-Camper-V/1066582704?iid=321923107353&chn=ps

And this might work fitted under a locker, at the back facing out instead of down.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/12v-LED-Tube-Strip-Light-Caravan-Motorhome-36cm-20-Cool-White-Leds-Switched/1557657323?iid=311043136874&chn=ps

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Here’s a pic of the roof

I’ll pop into B&Q just to satisfy her curiosity and see if they do a battery powered lamp I can use.

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Battery ones tend not to be that bright and the ceiling pictures are not encouraging either sadly.
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With the ceiling panel joint strip being where it is, I would think a lucky break, you'll be able to utilise it as a cable route.
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Which old light is that ?


I missed that observation first time round 😂 Sadly there was no old light to consider, the canvas is blank as they say.

I've found some very nice low profile sticky back conduit at B&Q if I go down the 'wired up' route. Next thing to consider is where to get the volts from without too much difficulty.

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With the ceiling panel joint strip being where it is, I would think a lucky break, you'll be able to utilise it as a cable route.


Yes John, I was thinking perhaps to run a sticky conduit along that plastic joiner for neatness.

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You can also get D-Line from B&Q Simon, I have run cables close to cupboards and it matches really well, but don't rely on its sticky back, it requires a chemically clean surface, and you won;t have that in the kitchen area, best to sue it's initial stickiness to hold it in situ and put a small 12mm no 4 screw every foot/300m.


different sizes available


https://www.diy.com/departments/d-line-abs-plastic-wood-effect-trunking-accessories-w-30mm/189081_BQ.prd?ds_kids=92700029894064855&gclid=CjwKCAjwyOreBRAYEiwAR2mSkl2udFxSOz3JCHHYCCXrDj-qfwPpPqAoyJRfh839e92xgUFdyMIzFBoCb84QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&ppc_type=shopping&utm_campaign=PX_GSC_EPHC_+_Generic&utm_medium=shopping&utm_source=google_cpc


https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/DL3D5025O.html?source=adwords&ad_position=1o6&ad_id=45425533757&placement=&kw=&network=g&matchtype=&ad_type=pla&product_id=DL3D5025O&product_partition_id=174053108227&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=CjwKCAjwyOreBRAYEiwAR2mSkkcuVVHxlBw0Rd2CbhoqioneAGH1lzEn-DFN9afTw4BdOLGDcsuI9xoCLOgQAvD_BwE





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Thanks Kev, I'll bear (😉) it in mind.
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It's looks off colour in the pictures but has matched really well in two vans, first used it in the CI riviera 141 about 4 years ago to run camera cables.


Here is a link to when I first used it, not filmed later usage, it gives you an idea of what it looks like.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/65gi584bvhv4qnf/Cable%20run%20of%20reversing%20cam%20on%20CI%20Riviera%20141.mp4?dl=0

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The area in our cab is dark in the evening, and I like to sit in the passenger seat to read . (Swivelled to face in the van of course!). We have two battery operated LED lights that have hooks on them, so we hang them from the grab handles above the doors when needed. They are multi purpose, as we can use them outside the van, as well as inside. In fact, when we had a power cut at home a few weeks ago we used them in the house! The light they give is strong but ‘cold.’ However they are great for reading by. They are in the van at the moment Simon, but if you decide they might be what you want, let me know and I will post a photo of them.
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Our £ shop has some battery operated eyeball led ones I saw today they are 360 degrees adjustable
 can be stuck in place or have a hole in the backplate so ya can hang them up. £2 each including 3 AA batteries

I can go back up 2morro and take a pic if ya want Simon. 

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I've got nothing to hang anything onto and so if I must I'll end up screwing a unit to the ceiling. I've already got several hang up lamps of various types to choose from but nothing suitable.
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You can get it in 1/4 round as well as half round 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D-LINE-SELF-ADHESIVE-TRUNKING-TV-CABLE-COVER-PVC-PLASTIC-DLINE-ACCESSORIES/323177016793?hash=item4b3ed9edd9:m:mvfXx-diICpRPTZg3jhqSNQ:rk:6😋f:0


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D-Line-TV-Electrical-Cable-Wire-Tidy-Plastic-Cover-Wire-Hide-Trunking-PVC-Dline/322811967324?hash=item4b2917b75c:m:mpv8_gNSys1p-_r4PIZo9_A:rk:4😋f:1&frcectupt=true

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